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a change. we know it is not government. we know there is too much government already. we'll incentivize businesses and incentivize investment and take this country forward into more economic prosperity. i don't think that's what we're going to hear but that would certainly be a breath of fresh air for the american business community. neil: he will talk about the need for more revenue, the need more more taxes. enough already. we gave you that. we'll not give an inch more. are they right to take that stance? >> they have to take that stand. i think we're to the point we can't borrow anymore. we can't tax anymore. if we tax anymore, we have the highest corporate tax rate. most people that the are running subchapter-s corporations, small businesses are now paying close to 50% if you're in a state like california, new york, you're paying more than 50% in tax. the top 5% pay over 50% of the income tax revenue in this country. this has to stop. the president has to stop this. and i don't think, i think he understands government. i don't think he understands that a vigorous government requires

. that the economic down tun happened because the government did not tax enough, spend enough, or control enough. as you heard tonight, his solution to virtually every problem we face is for washington to tax more, borrow more, and spend more. this idea that our problems were caused by the government that was too small, it is not true. in fact, the major cause of our recent downturn was the housing crisis created by the government policies. the idea that more taxes and more government spending is the best way to help middle-class taxpayers is an old idea that has failed. it will not help you get you ahead it will hold you back. it will limit your opportunities and more government isn't going inspirnse more idea, new businesses, it's going to create uncertainty. more government breeds complicated rules and laws that small businesses can't afford to follow. more government raises taxes on employers who pass the costs on to their employees to fewer hows, lower pay, and even layoffs. many government programs that claim to help the middle class often end up hurting them. obamacare was supposed to hel

the united states state department was an extension of the israeli government. things like that are unnerving. there is at least one speech he gave that he did not report that we think there is a copy of that we may get in the next few days. that is why i should -- i would oppose cloture today. i will vote for it after the recess. host: senator lindsey gramm of south carolina. joe is on our independent line. caller: i have interest in giving you a call because i have been doing research on the government. at this time, i have to publicize to the world that the government has committed an act of tyranny. they are doing what they should -- -- they are not doing what they should be done -- be doing for the sake of our people. and this time to play hardball against these individuals were shown in the past 80 years who have not been in the better interest of our children. that means 300 million of us need to get really involved in our government and participate. these guys do not care about this. history is showing it. the congress and senate -- this is why the federalists, james madison, set up t

to school on government money but is against government. aside from the awkward drink of water, i think his real problem is that it was the wrong night, wrong city. tuesday night in washington, wednesday night in new york. there is a place called the apollo. amateur night on wednesday night at the apollo. >> ouch. that hurt me in the crossfire. lawrence o'donnell. >> it was a major proposal that he kept under a certain wracked by not mentioning the number. he said that he was willing, in this negotiation, to avoid the sequestered and offered to the republicans' medicare cuts. he did not specify an amount, just the same amount that the bulls commission wanted. he suggested arriving at them in very vague ways, one having more affluent seniors play more. there are a variety of ways to do that. one of them, probably were most of the savings would be, to change the nature of medicare payments from a fee-for-service system, which is very reassuring to the patience, to something that he was very vague about but was probably an overall fee for a patient in which the doctor, many would argue, begins

, or who you love. it is our unfinished task to make sure that this government works on behalf of the many, and not just the few, that it encourages free enterprise, rewards individual initiative, and opens the doors of opportunity to every child across this great nation. [applause] the american people don't expect government to solve every problem. they don't expect those of us in this chamber to agree on every issue. but they do expect us to put the nation's interests before party. [applause] they do expect us to forge reasonable compromise where we can. for they know that america moves forward only when we do so together, and that the responsibility of improving this union remains the task of us all. our work must begin by making some basic decisions about our budget -- decisions that will have a huge impact on the strength of our recovery. over the last few years, both parties have worked together to reduce the deficit by more than $2.5 trillion -- mostly through spending cuts, but also by raising tax rates on the wealthiest 1 percent of americans. as a result, we are more than halfway

. >> well, good evening. and behind us here tonight, the entire government will be gathered in one building for the president's state of the union address, and in many ways, tonight the real work of the second term of the obama presidency begins. at least the part the president would like to accomplish and where he sees the nation headed. he faces, of course, a sharply divided congress, sometimes violently so, and a divided viewing audience. here tonight, a nation starting to see some daylight after years of recession, and it's the long, suffering middle class that will be the target of much of his message tonight. we should tell you at the same time, we are following a very tense news event, across the continent on the west coast in the san berardino mountains, gunfire and then a fire over an hour we've been watching this in a cabin in the woods believed to contain the sniper, ex-cop, the military veteran that has terrorized southern california for days. another loss of life tonight. a police deputy there confirmed dead and if this situation is resolved, we're keeping a close eye on it, we

that the government can continue, should there be, god forbid, a massive attack on the building behind us. tonight, it's energy secretary steven chu. this person is known as the designated survivor, if you can believe it. a term of distinction. savannah guthrie, let's talk about the atmospherics in the hall, what we can see, and what will be off camera. >> we touched on it already. the atmosphere in terms of the bitterness and the divided nature of our government right now. if you talk to republicans and democrats, the view you get of the other party is just so stark. as far as the speaker and republicans are concerned, the president emboldened, confrontational, wants to obliterate the party. on the side of the white house, aides think the republican party is fractured, weak, vulnerable, unable to govern itself and unable to make deals to solve the big problem and you've alluded to it, an incredible emotional weight inside this hall tonight, because of the many, many victims of gun violence there. a coordinated campaign by one congressman to have multiple victims of gun violence sitting there in the h

that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. according to polls americans believe government spending and huge debt piling up is a major problem. president obama apparently does not belief that last night in his state of the union address he would not cop to being the biggest spending president in history. no, he now sees himself as an investor. >> every dollar we invest in high quality early childhood education can save more than $7 later on. now if we want to make the best products, we also have to invest in the best ideas. now is not the time to gut these job creating investments and science and innovation. we will keep faith with our veterans. investing in world class care. we will invest in new capabilities. even as we reduce waste and more time spending. we need to make those investments. >> bill: 14 times he mentioned the word invest. mr. obama sounding like a morgan stanley broker. now that's obviously a con. massive government spend something out of control, period. here's the proof. 2002, the year after 9/11 when the federal government was forced to dramatically increase spe

not have the government answer to? if he did, i did not hear it. >> mark? >> if that is a liberal agenda, we have moved the goal posts in our country. i thought the speech was -- the sum of its parts did not create a greater whole. i thought that parts of it were really good. like the minimum wage, i like the education, i like the training, i particularly like the gun -- at the end. richarde wasn't come in nixon's turn, the lift of a driving dream. >> colby? >> i don't think it was supposed to be that kind of address. i think he laid out an agenda, and agenda he wants to pursue. i think he will achieve some of it. something will happen with immigration reform, i believe. i think he will get something on guns. there is a movement and he hit it just right with the tone. minimum wage will be the traditional fight. he was right to lay out the agenda he wants. he will get very little support from republicans. >> nina, on a scale from a to f, how would you rate the speech? >> b +. although there was a surgeon laundry-list element to the speech, which there is to every state of the union, in th

pays billions in fines for the gulf oil spill then gets billions more in government contracts. lindsey graham announce he will continue to block lady gaga's tour until she provides more answers about benefit -- benghazi. >>> starting with the senate and majority leader harry reid. >> republicans have made an unfortunate choice to ratchet up the level of destruction here in washington. just when you thought things couldn't get worse it gets worse. >> john: because today senate republicans blocked former republican senator chuck hagel's nomination to become the nation's next secretary of defense. this is the first time, friends in our nation's history that a filibuster has been used to block a president's nominee for that position. the final tally 58 for 40 against and one senator utah's orrin hatch voted present. wow, harry you couldn't see this coming, to cow? senator reid has mildly apoplectic after the votes were cast. >> they're filibustering him. that's what they're doing. i'm going to say i'm sorry sorry this has happened. >> john: harry reid showing the lack of outrage and passio

. they are even more ferociously committed to the legacy. the problem is what does the government do, because it is responsible for this reply -- for these libraries. >> see details challenges as a former director of the nixon library. >> the house of home and security oversight -- witnesses include james gilmore and officials with the government accountability office. the report highlights government programs and agencies that may be vulnerable to fraud, waste and abuse, and mismanagement. this is just over 90 minutes. >> the committee on homeland security, somebody on oversight and management and efficiency, will come to order. the purpose of this hearing is to examine the efficiency of this department of home and security and how widely the are spending taxpayer dollars. let me begin by extending a warm welcome to the other members of the subcommittee. i am looking forward to working with the ranking members as we both share a commitment to u.s. border security and ensuring our board agents -- ensuring our border agents receive the support they need to protect homeland. also look forward t

. it is our unfinished task to make sure that this government works on behalf of the many and not just the few. that it eouras free enter prize, rewards individual initiative and opens the doors of opportunity to every child across this great nation. ( applause ) the american people don't expect government to solve every problem. they don't expect those of us in this chamber to agree on every issue. but they do expect us to put the nation's interests before party. ( applause ) they do expect us to forge reasonable compromise where we can. for they know that america moves forward only when we do so together. and that the responsibility of improving this union remains the task ofs all. now, our work must begin by making some basic decisions about our budget, decisions that will have a huge impact on the strength of our recovery. over the last few years both parties have worked together to reduce the deficit by more than $2.5 trillion. mostly through spending cuts but also by raising tax rates on the wealthiest 1% of americans. as a result, we are more than halfway towards the goal of $4 trillion

, a lot of these congressmen who have been in government for a while, and some of the new ones are doing the job that they were sent there to do. they are representing the constituency from where they are from. the democrats do the same. i know we have differences on both sides of the aisle, but i believe that being able to -- being able to work together and coming together as a nation and congress has a lot to do with barack obama as the president. he was reelected. he needs to be in the white house. he needs to lead this nation. he does not need to be out in campaign mode. that is all i have seen from barack obama. campaign, speech -- let's get everybody in the white house, and let's get things done. guest: a couple of points -- we hear this from constituents, that they are frustrated that they are not seeing the leadership. what he is saying really plays into that. leaders are team builders. they know how to bring people forward to find consensus. the president's speech the other night was all about the president and about his plans. it was not about the items that are on the wrong tr

a very dramatic reform of the department as the federal government came in and forced changes down the department's throat after several scandals. bratton latched on to the changes and made sure that the department actually bought into them. and in doing so really changed the story line of the lapd. and that said, this whole episode, while you would think nobody would want to touch dorn were a ten-foot pole we have been inundated with e-mails and calls from lapd cops and from the public that say the old lapd is still alive and well. even if that's not the case, and i don't think it is, the memories and the pain and the scars from that time are still very much on the surface. >> it often goes down to personal experiences with the police that are anecdotal, but of course they drive how you think about any life experience. they dominate your thinking. and of course the past is always with. thank you, joel rubin of "the l.a. time." clint van zandt is now with us. clint, thank you. i've been watching you on knbc as we monitor the situation. do we have clint? we don't have clint. >> yeah

government is actually capable of doing? i mean, you talk about the economy and jobs. there is, obviously, debate how many jobs have actually been created in the economy. look. you pointed out to apple ceo, tim cook was in the audience in the state of the union. he is sitting on over 171 million dollars in cash at apple. why? because uncertainty in the marketplace. tom friedman writing this morning something that caught my eye. he said you can feel the economy wants to launch but washington is sitting on the national mute button. we the people feel like the children of permanently divorcing parents. how does this sequestered business end? the president said during the campaign the sequester, the word for automatic spending cuts, he said it would not happen. is it going to happen? >> i always read tom friedman he has that good minnesota sensibility. >> you guys stick together. >> we do. the column today i think is continuation of that. frankly, i believe it's a continuation of exactly the plan the president laid out in detail in the state of the union on tuesday night. we have already made

or who you love. it is our unfinished task to make sure that this government works on behalf of the many and not just the few. that it encourages free enterprise, rewards individualization and every child across this great nation. the american people don't expect government to solve every problem. they don't expect those of us in this chamber to agree on every issue. but they do expect us to put the nation's interests before party. they do expect us to forge reasonable compromise where we can for they know that america moves forward only when we do so together and that the responsibility of improving this union remains the task of us all. our work must begin by making some basic decisions about our budget, decisions that will have a huge impact on the strength of our recovery. over the last few years, both parties have worked together to reduce the deficit by more than $2.5 trillion. mostly through spending cuts but also by raising tax rates on the wealthiest 1% of americans. as a result, we are more than halfway towards the goal of $4 trillion in deficit reduction that economists say we

to do with chuck hagel who wasn't in the government at that time. well, today republican threats to take the unprecedented step of blocking a presidential cabinet appointment came to fruition, if you will. democrats moved forward with a procedural vote to end debate and pave the way for a final up and down vote. then it failed. it failed to get the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster. so -- and this just happened. where does hagel's nomination go from here and what are the republicans really up to here in delaying the vote? claire mccaskill is a democratic senator from missouri. thank you, senator. kelly o'donnell. let me tell you this, i want to ask you, why are they doing this? why are they holding up a cabinet appointment at the highest 4re68, defense secretary in why are the republicans doing this? >> i talked to republicans about this today. they made it clear there are really two tracks. for some of them it is about chuck hague 'em, his qualifications, his past statements, wanting to know more. wanting the members of the snit who didn't get to ask him questions to review the m

to benghazi, something that has nothing do with chuck hagel, who wasn't even in the government at the time. today, the unprecedented step came to a head. that failed to get the 60 votes needed. that mob at the gate headed over >> what are republicans really trying to do? nbc's kelly o'donnell is at the capital tonight. let me just tell you this, i'm going to ask you, why are they doing this? why are they holding up a cabinet appointment? >> for some of them, it is about chuck hagel wanting to know more, who were not a part of committee. they just all received. they make it very clear. it's not personal, they say. it is a tool within the rules of the senate. they say the only tool they have to try to extract from the administration information they did not willingingly give. so case in point, there are two things that have happened because they put up this resistance. >> today, they received a letter and they believed that that is a credit to the white house, that they've now given them that information. they're satisfied, for now, on that. expect more questions, chris u when joan brennan,

laid out tonight. the choice isn't just between big government or big business. >> oh, so unsmooth and awkward. rubio did speak out this morning on "good morning america" and said "i needed water" what was i going to do? >> we're back after the break. going to do the young turks. i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. stop looking at car interiors. get inspired by other stuff. yep. yep. ok. sure. why not? woah. touchscreens. put that in your dash. now, luxury stuff. make your seats like that. that thing has wifi, why doesn't your car? you can't do that. ignore that guy. give it wifi. yes! make it fit 5 people. no, 5 actual sized people. give them leg room, good.

't in the government when it was happened. sick stuff and seems to be growing. the better he looks, the more these characters are determined to look. did you notice the smile, by the way, on john boehner's face sit behind the president on the state of the union. if you did, you're imagining things. so afraid of the hard-hating republicans that even boehner is scared to death of looking like he might like what the president is saying. let's go at it. our guests very joy read and michael steele former chair of the republican national committee. both very msnbc analysts and good ones. let's take a look at this. is this delay on the hagel vote about playing for time? well, "the new york times" reports today that anti-hagel groups right now are hoping for exactly that. quote, leaders of the group say they expect third efforts to include more phone calls, urging conservative voters to vote no. new efforts to unearth embarrassing details from mr. hagel's past, and potentially a new round of television advertisements pressuring democrats to drop their support for him. it used to be the president got

. >> senator marco rubio, delivering a combative republican response. >> no government isn't going to help you get ahead. it's going to hold you back. more government isn't going to create opportunities. it's going to limit them. mr. president, i don't oppose your plan because i want to protect the rich. i oppose your plan because i want to protect my neighbors. >> but it was that unscripted lunge for water that's lighting up social media. the senator made light of the moment by tweeting a picture of the water bottle and cracking jokes on the morning talk shows. >> i needed water. what am i going to do, you know? it happens. god has a funny way of reminding us we're human. >>> good day. i'm andrea mitchell. live in washington. for the daily fix, chis and chuck todd, chief political correspondent and host of "the daily rundown." two speeches, two different approaches. chuck todd, we see the president on the road today. he'll be on the road the rest of the week. did he muddy up or cover up his middle class message, economic message with that incredible and emotional appeal at the end? >> or woul

number of people out there are circling the wagons. they see the government coming to collect their guns, and they're preparing for fight. the only thingy figure is that movement, crude as it may be to throw these two issues together toward personal freedom, toward individual autonomy is growing, profoundly on the right as well as the left. people want to make their own decisions. they do. and it may be dangerous for society as a whole to allow this when it comes to gun buying, but there row visit. one bet you can make on america we are still a cowboy country. we like to get around in our own cars, live in our separate houses, read whatever, see whatever, pretty much do whatever. and the difference here is doing harm to others. two people getting married doesn't hurt someone else's marriage, nor does it reduce its reverence or love. having a gun in the wrong hands, freedom for that person can mean death for lots of others. and that is where the desire for freedom jumps the tracks. that's where our cowboy urge need wyatt earp to come in and clean up dodge city. and that's "hardball" for n

refrain-- reframe the republican philosophy it was very much small government versus big government. that's what we heard for a long time. i think republicans are going to have to have more than boot staps message. they're going to have to define a limited but active role as government to help people gain the skills they need to compete in the modern economy. he needs to, in order to reformat the republican message, have that 250i7 of message but he's got time. you for example the good thing is he has time. >> what do we read from the fact, michael and mark, as we said not one but two republican responses. the over one was rand paul, tea party. obviously this is just the tip of the iceberg but what does it is a about the republican matter right now. >> i think the republican party going through a very difficult period. just to give you sort of a quick history lesson, joe leiberman was democratic senator, nominee for vice president in 2000. in 2007 he created a great-- committed a grea great-- oppose tate act. he endorsed john mccain as president. he went to the republican convention we ar

. >> ooh, this ought to be good. please proceed, government regulators. >> we've actually had a fairly -- a fair number of consent orders. we do not have to bring people to trial or -- >> well, i appreciate you say you don't have to bring them to trial. my question is when did you bring them to trial? >> we have not had to do it as a practical matter to achieve our supervisory goals. >> and senator warren wasn't done making her point. >> we look at the distinction between what we could get if we go the trial and what we could get if we don't. >> i appreciate that. that's what everybody does. so the question i'm really asking is can you identify when you last took the wall street banks to trial? >> um, i will have to get back to you with the specific information. >> i think they all need water on that panel. what do you think? the government has acted cowardly when it comes to the big banks, no doubt about it. deals are cut and civil cases get settled out of court. the banks don't have to change any of their behavior. you and i get stuck, or could get stuck. warren wants to stop this en

economy is taken by the federal government. he didn't say any of this. he didn't say any of this because it's embarrassing. it's a disaster. >>brian: he's got 52% approval rating but 54% of the people say they're on the wrong track. it is how you describe your family. the american public likes him personally and they factor in what can you do about it? we like him and we're going to take the job performance away from the likeability. >>steve: most republicans -- >>brian: it's almost as if what can you do? he's our president and i like him personally, so i'm not going to hold him responsible for the food stamps and unemployment, the lack of economic growth or diminishing standing around the world, the shrinking of our military. >>gretchen: we talked about how the polls even before the election seemed to say, the most recent one ing probleming, 83% think in the country. yet to listen to the state of the union it was about more spending. there is this disconnect, cognitive distance, family relations, whatever you want to call it. >>steve: the fact that the president was pushing a very liber

toy world. >> we saw with his nomination something truly extraordinary which is the government of iran formally and publicly praising the nomination of a defense secretary. >> senator hagel is an honorable man, he has served his country and no one on this committee at any time should impugn his character or his integrity. >> john mccain or roy blount are critical here if they don't participate in this filibuster, it seems as though he will move ahead. what's changed from when john mccain thought that chuck hagel was worthy of a nomination until now? >> a lot of it was iraq. >> so is it political pay back? >> it is like a lot of things, it's both political and personal. i think john mccain in kind of brushing back ted cruz was trying to sort of sort out the personal and the political. the problem for mccain is, if it looks like this is purely personal and that it's an attack, then it kind of diminishes his credibility. he's trying to keep the argument on substance, but there's no question for john mccain, it is also personal. these two men were friends, they were part of a band of broth

willingly whether it's in government, whether it's in your office? i mean it just doesn't happen. so i think that the irony here, one of them, is that this man who many people associate with the middle ages is going to go down in history as a modernizer because he really showed this modern reality and was the first, you know, even 600 years ago when it happened, it happened to heal a schism. this is happening because he, a, sees we're living longer now, but, b, sees for all the incense and candlelight around the papacy, it's also a job, and there are certain requirements of the job, and if you can't do it, what he's saying and voting with his feet, is that you need to leave. >> well said. >> amen. >> i think it shows a lot of humility. in april of 2005 when pope john paul ii died, we broadcasted "hardball" from rome. as we closed our last show from there, let's listen. look at these people standing for hours, day and night, through the avenues of rome, packed together as if they had been caught and crushed in an industrial strength trash compacter. there they stood seeking no edge, plotting

info about the benghazi situation even though hagel wasn't even in the government when benghazi happened. sick stuff. and it seems to be growing in inverse proportion to obama's popularity. the better he looks, the worse these characters, inhofe, cruz, mccain, and lindsey graham, are determined to look. did you notice the smile on john boehner's face sitting up there behind the president during the state of the union? if you did, you're imagining things. so afraid of the hard hating right of republicans these days of every stripe, even boehner's scared to death of looking like he might like something barack obama had to say. to do that is to risk political death in these days. let's go at it. our guests are joy reid of the grio and michael steele, former chairman of the republican national committee. both are msnbc analysts and good ones. let's take a look at this. is this delay on the hagel vote about playing for time hoping new information comes out about them? "the new york times" reports today that anti-hagel groups are right now hoping for exactly that. quote, leaders of th

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about government overreach than solving real problems. he says, where were they talking about school safety. why aren't we talking about hardening the targets. the president has been very skeptical about that and didn't say anything about it in his state of the union. >> you've got a packed "meet the press." you've got john mccain, denis mcdonough, the new white house chief of staff, and i want to start with sort of some obvious questions that mcdonough's going to face. chuck hagel watching this. the president is not going to get forced to pull back on this. >> he got re-elected and he wants his guy. the guy he wants is someone he's sympa sympatico with. he'll have to deal with these republicans who have this personal vendetta against him. he does carry this baggage. and i think these performance issues have not helped. his performance in his confirmation hearing did not make people inside the white house more confident about him. but, again, second term presidents, their level of confidence, who they want for the reasons they want them carry the day. >> john mccain, we saw all sides

to get it done. they're all afraid of the government having a big list of gun owners. you know who has a big list of gun owners? the n.r.a. for a nickel a name, they'll sell it to you. stephanie: indicate obe chain. >> marco rubio scares the left more than just about anybody out there. instead of talking about that really intense moment when rubio was able to identify with the american people and say look, i don't live next to mill ayres i live in the same neighborhood i grew up in, i just paid off over $100,000 in student loans a few months ago that is the raft thing the leftists and mainstream media want the american people to be talking about, so they pick out something stupid like a drink of water. >> speaking of stupid, look in the mirror. stephanie: isn't his house worth $700,000, he wants to sell it to get out of that neighborhood. >> it's not the left that is afraid of more brown people coming to this country. stephanie: right. >> ok? if anything, it's the left that wants more brown people to be accepted and integrated into our society regardless of affiliation. we're actually

will give info about the benghazi situation, even though hagel wasn't even in the government when benghazi happened. sick stuff. seems to be growing. the better he looks the worst these characters, inhofe, cruz and lindsey graham are determined to look. notice the smile on john boehner's face sitting behind the president at the state of the union. if you did you're imagining things. so afraid of the hard hating right are republicans these days of every stripe even boehner's scared of looking like he might actually like something barack obama had to say. to do that today is to risk political death in these days of republican defeat, anger, discontent and downright hatred. joy reid of the grio and michael steele, former chair of the republican national committee. both are msnbc analysts and good ones. is this delay on the hagel vote about playing for time, hoping new information comes out about him? "the new york times" reports anti-hagel groups are hoping for exactly that. quote, leaders of these groups said in interviews they expected their efforts to include more phone calls, urging conse

of that slowing down the workings of government. but i actually think that john mccain's -- >> you know, though, richard that in the end, we're hearing in the end most likely he's going to pass and be secretary of defense. so why hold him up over a recess when the pentagon desperately needs somebody at the helm? >> because in a funny sort of way, joe, it's exactly what mccain said. it's a way of getting their pound of flesh. it's a way of sending a message to hagel. and it's just a way of almost acting out the kind of rancor and just the dislike that is out there. >> you seem awfully calm about this and resolved that this is just the way washington works. does this not trouble you at all? >> of course it troubles me, but it's also just the way that washington works. i do think in the end chuck hagel will get the job. and as you say, this is not about defense policy. what is so extraordinary is we actually have major defense issues from sequestration to the pivot towards asia, you name it. and none of this is part of it. and so you mentioned before the budget. what you're seeing here on virtuall

in the government and the state department, defense department and the cia have security clearances for that entire length of time and i was convinced the kind of country in spirit that you need as an intelligence officer should be taken to this field of the defense budget and the military. i was told social security is the third rail of american politics and i guess it is but another rail of american politics and policy is the defense budget and if you look at what you read in the so-called mainstream press including the best of it, "the new york times," 85 to 90% of what we read in the paper and what we read in our magazines comes from officials sources we are getting what people want us to read. it's very difficult for a contrary and to get into the mainstream press and i know that from personal experience. in some ways the easiest thing to do is if you have something to say is try to draft a manuscript and see what happens. a starting point for me has to the eisenhower and everyone is familiar with a farewell address from 1961, the warning about the military-industrial complex. i was a student

't expect government to solve every problem. but they do expect us to put the nation's interests before party. >> reporter: it all came on the same day speaker john boehner called the president out for not having the courage or guts to make tough choices on the budget. the president used the power of the podium to push back. >> some in congress have proposed preventing only the defense cuts. by making even bigger cuts to things like education and job training. medicare and social security benefits. that idea is even worse. >> reporter: as is typical of most state of the union addresses, the president covered lots of ground. >> our first priority is making america a magnet for new jobs and manufacturing. we must do more to combat climate change. send me a comprehensive immigration reform bill in the next few months, and i will sign it right away. i ask this congress to declare that women should earn a living equal to their efforts and finally pass the paycheck fairness act this year. >> reporter: not to mention the middle east, afghanistan, counterterrorism, cyber terrorism, and voting r

, you know, we've got, we've got socialistic governments all over the world. if that's what you want, please, get on a plane and go there and live. >> host: so, june -- >> caller: we have got to get our country under control. >> host: so, june, do you think republicans should hold that line and let sequestration happen if they, if democrats will not agree to spending cuts? >> caller: well, they're not going to agree to spending cuts. they have all of the press, and it is spun every day. we hear nothing on the media about the fact that we are taxed too much. >> host: okay. >> caller: so they've got no reason to give in. they've got a president who wants to turn us into a third world country with all this taxing and redistribution of wealth. we've run out of wealth, by the way, it's just redistribution the crumbs on the table. and it's just too much. >> host: all right, june. let's listen to what nancy pelosi had to say. she was on the sunday talk shows yesterday, and here's what she had to say on this issue of a spending problem in washington. >> so it is almost a false argument to sa

power in the entire economy. there's one -- we essentially make the government their leverage. they say they need to get at least this much of the profit, and if we don't see a huge disemployment affect from that, then it's probably a pretty good idea. yes, to marco rubio's point, to speaker yon boehner's point, it's not a solution to the problems of our economy, but it is one thing we can do that helps very, very low skill workers, people at the bottom of the income ladder, get a little bit more from what are at this moment very profitable, very profitable period in corporate profits. >> it's not just about a little bit more because that's a good idea. if you look at -- i mean, one in three american families is living near poverty. i mean, the census number -- the number of american families that are basically living on the brink of the powerhouse, as we cut programs to help the poor and the needy, is rather staggering when you look at, again, corporate profits. demos did a great study and looked at the impact of raising the minimum wage on workers, and effectively, if wal-mart, for ex

on monday night right here. i will be hosting the documentary on what happened when our government lied us into war. how they got away with it, and whether we understand it well enough to stop it from happening again the next time somebody inevitably tries it. that's monday night 9:00 p.m. eastern here on msnbc. we understand this is likely to cause political upset when we air it, but sometimes you got to do that anyway. after all, it's for a good cause. now it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." have a great night. >>> today republicans blocked a vote on chuck hagel just because they can. >> well, it's valentine's day. love is not in the air. >> it's shocking. >> not a lot of love for chuck hagel. >> to filibuster of the senator's confirmation is unprecedented. >> unprecedented filibuster. >> the debate on chuck hagel is is not over. >> all roads lead to benghazi. >> i'm going to fight zblooes willing to fight to the very end. >> i'm going to hit you and keep hitting you. absolutely. >> who blinks first? >> nobody is quite certain. >> the filibuster of senator hagel's conf

with members of the syrian government but only if they don't include assad and security officials. that seems very unlikely meaning there is probably no real path. >> kelly: it's an important aspect or development to see russia and the united states trying to work together on this crisis going on in syria. what about the iran factor? what can they do about that keeping iran out of syria? >> there is a very little things to do to iran right now. they are already international sanctions because of the nuclear program in iran. there is also other things that the united states is working on with other countries but the real pressure pointed for u.s. diplomats think they will have most success is going through russia. they don't see much of an avenue through to iran to pressure the regime. >> heather: the crisis in the african nation of mali. a french official confirmed that an operation has been launched in the town of boron, hundreds of forces are on the ground trying to dislodge radical fighters. joy aheadists have staged two suicide bombings so far on the road from bourem where they forced out

of cutting, we saw an unprecedented explosion of government spending and debt. it was unlike anything we've ever seen before in the history of the country. >> last year a gop response by mitch daniels had competition from the herminator. >> in a word i heard the speech, and it came across as a hodge podge of little ideas. >> this year senator marco rubio will deliver the republican response, while rubio was once the standard bearer for the tea party, the group is still opting for its own rival rebuttal from the man who said this after the past election. >> there is one compromise i would be in favor of, and that's that all spending should be cut. >> joining the panel now to discuss is msnbc contributor ari melber and jake sherman. jake, what are the optics here? ran paul on cnn said to me i see it as an extra response, but it doesn't really project party unity to have different responses to the president. >> i think if john boehner and mitch mcconnell had their choice here, they would have one person going forward with the response. you know ran paul is not likely to give his remarks ove

-tested. >> minimum wage, universal precare. the high school race to the top equivalency scales. yes, it's government getting wolfed. he's talking about things that people worry about. education is a large part of it. it's about the economy, but it's about its connection to education. that's where the republicans, if they sit there and say, but he didn't talk about the debt, he didn't talk about the debt, they got to be careful. >> you wonder how it's about poll-testing this morning, joel bennett, the president's pollster was talking about climate change and how well they were polling. >> and it also forces john boehner to make statements like this. i've read this five times. a lot of people who are being paid the minimum wage are being paid that because they come to the workforce with no skills and this, an increase in the minimum wage makes it harder for them to acquire the skills they need in order to climb that ladder successfully. as far as i can tell, the argument there is don't pay people more because it will make them lazy. this is the taker's maker thing. this is an extension of romne romney

isolate a tea party that says it wants small government on the one hand, but really object because -- >> cutting back -- >> cutting back for children who through no fault of their own were born here. rick perry of all people tried to make that comment. what happened? they shot hem down. idealogically and politically it may not be a bad move for obama. smoke them out. make them state just how committed they are to this. yeah. >> really quickly, ari. the other thing is that this whole process, we know the president said this is going to inflame passions, but can the gop debt get through this whout putting their collective foot in their mouth, which is to say it stokes the ayre of passions both in the progressive community and the conservative community and will any -- if they do make it an actual reform, does the rhetoric and resistance that will inevitably come from certain parties of the gop negate the fact that they make on actual policy? >> rubio has the same problem that lindsey graham has, which is can you do enough fire-breathing obama attacks to earn yourself any space to do

. >> chris: congress woman, let's look at the numbers. are you really saying in a government that spends $3.5 trillion a year increased discretionary spending by 14% in the last four years you can't $85 billion to cut to avoid the sequester. >> we have made the cut in terms of agriculture subsidies. there are tens of billions of dollars in cuts there. and that should be balanced with eliminating subsidies for big oil. why should we lower pell grants instead of eliminating the subsidies for big oil? >> chris: why not just cut spending. 85 billion north dakota a $3.5 trillion government. >> let's just back up from with all due respect to the speaker what he said is not the gospel truth. the fact is that a lot of the spending increases came during the bush administration. two unpaid for wars that we got ourselves engaged in. prescription drug plan that added enormous amounts to our spending and the tax cuts of the high end that did not create jobs and create revenue coming in. >> chris: but the total debt has increased $5 trillion sense this president came in. >> well, part of that is from the

a proportionate share of these workers. one of the things we've seen in gop discourse is this idea that government doesn't create jobs. that is simply inaccurate. we know that these are, in fact, very good jobs. jobs that tend to be the least discriminatory jobs because the government actually asserts sort of high quality, nondiscriminatory policies and often has some of the best benefits, retirement, all of that. and the gom is going after those jobs and deepening our economic crisis when there is no need to. >> e.j., not only going after those things in government that provides jobs, they seemed absolutely out raged that the president would propose a $9 federal minimum wage when we've been ensuring the last couple of nights how a single parent with a child is making below the poverty level. and, in fact, former reagan advisor says that haggling over minimum wage is bad politics. >> even he can see this, but they're acting as if this is something that is totally unthinkable. >> raising the minimum wage is popular because there is a moral sense that people have that if you work hard every day, you

bands in the world, fun. >>> a government prepares for the apocalypse. >> canada will never become a safe haven for zombies ever. >>> and the dance that's everywhere, even here at cnn, the harlem shake. >>> just when you think we've got it all worked out, cutting-edge technology, scientific breakthroughs, miracle medicine, lately there's been talk about colonizing mars and many of you carry around a supercomputer right in your pocket. but just when you think you have it all worked out, the univers reminds us, we really don't. case in point, friday a chunk of space rock gets sucked in by the earth's gravitational pull. then streaks across the sky above russia. as it rockets through the atmosphere, friction heats the front of the rock a lot more than the back of it. the huge temperature difference is too much and essentially turns a meteor into a bomb. it explodes into a bunch of pieces. and what you're hearing here, that boom, boom, boom, is this -- take a look. those pieces are moving so fast they set up a series of sonic booms and it's just a scary sound. the sheer force is destru

has me every time he uses the hard and necessary work of self government. that line just plays me. i was very taken by the refrain of essentially telling congress to do its job look, vote on this stuff. i that the to was very compelling. i thought it was a message that was aimed less at the congress than the people out there pointing out saying hey you guys out there may not agree with me, but let's debate, let's vote on these things. >> did you sense this was a different president obama than we would have seen in say his third state of the union? i'm just picking one of his four out of the hat. do you find it a little different than the president we've seen before congress? >> yeah, i think that the campaign was a real revelation to him as to the complete lack of commitment by the republican party to any concept of a safety net at all, and more to the point a complete add vocation of the republican party to be a responsible opposition party. i honestly think before the presidential campaign, he still had in the back of his mind that he was going to be able to find enough reasonable

that will start generating more revenue for the government? i feel like it will just cause more problems for the economy and more spending to take care of more citizens. host: mary in mississippi, republican. caller: hi. i would just like to commend the 12-year-old boy that called. it's wonderful that he has an interest in politics and that he really is informed and trying to find out what is really going on in the country. i feel that is, as a republican, that is one of the problems with the democrats, they don't listen and they don't find out what is really going on. i think they voted because they thought it was cool to vote for obama. i would like to say to marco rubio that night when he's giving his rebuttal in spanish, that he encourages all the illegal aliens and even illegal aliens not to learn the english language. host: we saw a news story talking about how the senator plans to stop about other issues like education. are you looking forward to hear what else he has to say, as a republican? caller: yes, i am. i really think highly of him. i really liked him and what he stands fo

. the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. >> we have seemed to have an obsession with government bookkeeping. this is a rigged game and it is the wrong game for us to play. >> as we look ahead to 2016, rubio and the jindals and christies of the world represent two different schools of thinking in terms of how to rebrand the party and how to fight obama. >>> well, it's valentine's day, but love is not in the air, for anyone here in washington. what's new about that? up next, more on the republican party, at odds with itself, messenger and messaging. plus, what do they think of the obama agenda. with all the love lost, is it time for a breakup? we talk to tennessee congressman, marsha blackburn, who says it's time to get rid of the grand old party. >>> but first, a look ahead, in today's politics planner, a lot of sequester hearings today. arne duncan on the hill, talking about that. secretary clinton getting an honor at the pentagon today. and of course, the president in atlanta, but he also does a google hangout. so get your head gear on. you're watching "the daily rundown," only

by this standard again you would not let anyone serve in government that you di agreed with. >> but it's based on a grudge. it's based on a bitter grudge 4e held by senator mccain. what possible principle is he using to uphold the nomination of a defense secretary given that this nation is at war? >> i don't think it's principled. i think it is unfortunate, and equally important it doesn't stand up because this is a senator here who wanted george w. bush and republicans, of course, to get their team in, and now he's got this grudge. if you take a step back, i'm not the biggest chuck hagel fan in the world anyway. if republicans don't like it, when president obama appoints republicans, he won't even try to reach out. it's not a two-sided problem in washington. the democrats have a role because harry reid didn't get through filibuster reform. he should have so they held onto the process -- >> but that had nothing to do with what happened yesterday? >> but they are not the abusers, they are the enablers and the abusers are john mccain and people who don't want -- it sounds like rhetoric, literall

from the government later today, and those are the pictures that the government published some days ago from his hospital bed in havana. i think one of the advantages for the chavez government has been to have its leader in cuba because since there is no free press, there is no way of determining exactly what his condition is. now they say -- >> exactly. >> -- he was flown back at 2:00 in the morning to caracas. is he in the military hospital in caracas, and an unusual thing for the chavez government, no video cameras, no coverage of the president arriving or the ambulance taking him to the airport -- to the hospital or really it's been a silence and a no video movement from havana to caracas. let's see what the government says today. clearly hugo chavez is not doing well enough to be able to either walk down the steps of the escalator, of the airport -- airplane or even maybe to speak, so there's a lot of questions underway. remember, he has to be sworn in because from his last re-election, the constitution said he had to be sworn in in venezuela, and because he was in cuba, that didn'

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